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Post by mikeandsteve on Apr 19, 2006 21:22:25 GMT
First of all can we introduce ourselves as Mike and Steve Fletcher, we are currently running Pool Bridge Fisheries for our Dad Dave.
Your advice/thoughts are required please!!
We are soon to start running Wednesday evening and Saturday day Open Matches.
What we would like to know from you fellow anglers (and who better to ask!) is: What kind of Match do you want?
Would you prefer a Silver Fish match, with large Carp counting as 1lb, 2lb or 5lb, or should all Carp count as their full weight?
Any other comments or suggestions you have regarding running open matches would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Mike and Steve
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Post by Bluey on Apr 19, 2006 21:33:19 GMT
Hello Mike and Steve, welcome to the site gentlemen.  I'm sure many of our match angling members will be very keen to give their input which I hope will help you run your matches more effectively. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2006 21:46:09 GMT
Welcome to the site lads, having met you both yesterday may I say what a clean tidy well kept venue you run, your fish are also in very good condition,they fight like under water missiles, hope you do well with your matches maybe some of our members will try them out, all our lads are looking forward to fishing there on the 30th of this month, Bill
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2006 21:52:38 GMT
Mike and Steve, Firstly, thanks for a great day yesterday, all 3 of us enjoyed the day in well cared for surroundings, Secondly, WELCOME good to have you around and i'm sure that you will get plenty of input from the match and pleasure fishing lads and lasses on the site. Mick the Troll |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2006 22:59:51 GMT
Welcome to the site Mike & Steve lovely place you have up there nice job to all the family.
On the match front my twopeneth would be keep it a weight match i.e you catch a carp weighing 20lb and thats what its worth at the weigh in. You'd be well cheesed if you caught four or five double figure fish in a match and they only counted as 1 or 2lb each!
Silver
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Post by njc on Apr 19, 2006 23:44:55 GMT
Mike/Steve. Silver fish matches *can* be a good idea but you then have the problem of people either..... a) Playing big fish on light elastics and potentially spoiling peoples fishing either side of them with a runaway carp. b) People pulling for a break to save time when they hook something sizeable which can't be good for the fish welfare and has a reasonable chance of ending up with carp tethered to pole/feeder rigs. I presume one of the reasons you're asking the question is the no carp over 5lb in a keepnet rule and the difficulties it poses to match fishing? I have to say I'd be tempted to up that limit but enforce a two keepnet policy. The only other way is to have 2 or 3 sets of scales manned at every match and aim to be arriving at the anglers peg as he lands the fish and weigh and return it without much delay. FWIW we're still agonizing over how we will manage this rule on our matches as well  Nige. |
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Post by Finny on Apr 20, 2006 7:18:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2006 8:36:30 GMT
Hi Mike,Steve.
Having seen Mick's write up after his visit, can't wait to come and fish the place on the 30th..
With regards weigh/return of fish - I would agree with NJC, go to the two keepnet rule on the match lake, and up the limit to say 7lb.
A lot of other multi-lake venues tend to move bigger fish out of match ponds, but then again, don't want to lose the exitement of hooking something 'big' - adds to the anticipation, and makes you think a little harder about your fishing style :-)
Welcome!
Regards, Carl.
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Post by naf on Apr 20, 2006 9:11:47 GMT
I would agree with chegers, if you want a match pond keep 'match' sized fish in it and restock and remove as necessary.
I am not a big fan on having two nets and much prefer to see the larger fish weighed and returned on capture and if it’s an open match the organiser/you should be doing it. I also feel that there should be a limitation and if an angler feels that they have say 100lb of fish in their keep net they should request a weigh-in with a penalty if they go over.
The limitations on the size of fish to be retained can really only be established by your own experiences and continuously monitoring the situation and health of the fish, however the general consensus would appear to be around the 5lb mark although at hayfields last year anything under 20lb was supposed to go in the net.
One thing I am definite about is the full weight of anything caught should be taken into consideration.
Best of luck guys and yes i am extremely jealous ;D ;D ;D
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Post by njc on Apr 20, 2006 9:21:10 GMT
I am not a big fan on having two nets and much prefer to see the larger fish weighed and returned on capture and if it’s an open match the organiser/you should be doing it. I also feel that there should be a limitation and if an angler feels that they have say 100lb of fish in their keep net they should request a weigh-in with a penalty if they go over. I'm curious as to what you have agains two nets mate? I've always thought it makes perfect sense and to be honest even if I'm only expecting 50lb of fish I'll sometimes use two nets and just use them one at a time as i catch fish. Can only agree with the match organiser or dedicated helpers being on hand to weigh and return on capture. I don't think you should have to weigh your own fish as in essence you're being penalised time for catching a better stamp of fish. That can't be right in a competitive setting? njc. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2006 10:16:58 GMT
I think all of you are missing something although everyone wants to win don't forget these are onlyFUN MATCHES we are all there to help each other catch fish, from the experienced angler to the angler who is maybe a novice so to speak, All fish will be treated with care weighed and returned, so if anyone is bothered about losing fishing time,etc,etc, find a match elsewhere.
That's my thoughts, everything was o.k. last year, if it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind, Bill
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Post by naf on Apr 20, 2006 10:34:54 GMT
Bill, This aint to do with our matches LOL  But your right, how we operated last year was spot on and if everyone could avoid catching fish like we do there would be no problems ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Jay on Apr 20, 2006 11:16:16 GMT
Welcome to the site guys. Had a look at your fishery on Sunday (along with another 6) and have to say was very impressed. Lovely site and somewhere where I'd happily fish away the hours.
Hopefully get out this weekend to fish for the first time in over two years. I'll be sure to say hello.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2006 21:58:04 GMT
hi lads welcome to this bril site
silvers would be a good match but how many ponds do u find now a days with no carp in them none is it worth having now a days and ow many will fish it i know a lot now dont just head for carp would be nice just to have silvers in it but thats up to the fisherys owners the other way is
only have a maggot only match
as for u runing a fishery every ones dream to do it but u also get caught in the trap of not fishing it as u keep looking after it and u have a g8 one so if u do fish u two its hard in what to do
a few yrs down the line u'll wonder were the the fun went to
it'll be nice to see one of u fishing on the fun matches in other words dont make it all work HAVE SOME FUN
the next one is when holding matches on the pond/s leave one or two free for people just to fish them (not in a match )
and dont keep ur matches on just two lakes say 3 months later swap them around so them two that have been matched fish can have a rest that way when the carp get bigger any body can fish them as some times u go to a fishery its all ways matched up on the best lakes so only way to get on is in the match
just swap them a round and give two a rest from the matches
just my thoughs see u on the the 30th lads
monkey
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Post by musselman on Apr 20, 2006 22:42:48 GMT
Welcome to the site lads. See you in the morning bright and early!
musselman
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Post by mikeandsteve on Apr 23, 2006 20:49:24 GMT
Thanks for the great response! It's good to know that we can get sound advice from fellow anglers!
The common consensus seems to be "a carps weight is a carps weight" so therefore we will run the matches on this basis.
We are going to weigh and release all carp around double figures and all other carp will go in the one keepnet however we are going to monitor the fish during weigh-ins and if any fish appear to be distressed in any way then we will revise this and purchase enough carp friendly keepnets for every angler, so that carp can be put into a seperate net.
Thanks again for the great feedback.
Cheers
M & S
P.S. We will soon be starting a new thread reference "night fishing" !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2006 21:55:11 GMT
ill take two any lads silvers in one carp in the other as the silvers will get more damage to them
can we all so when takein the fish from the nets to pull the 2nd to bottom ring up though the net so we r not rolling the the fish the full length of the net before they go in the wiegh bag
monkey
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2006 9:47:18 GMT
ill take two any lads silvers in one carp in the other monkey Or if i was fishingthe match, that would be one fish in each keepnet  (ok bragging a little there) one fish in the silver net and 2 pints of spilt pellets and dropped tackle in the other ;D |
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Post by naf on Apr 24, 2006 10:00:19 GMT
Great reply mikeandsteve, Its nice to see fishery owners asking and listening to the lads fishing there waters and the suggestion to supply carp nets for the matches is excellent. Tom |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2006 10:32:43 GMT
Some cracking ideas lads p.m sent ..Bill
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Post by rozzhee on Apr 25, 2006 14:55:32 GMT
Hi and welcome to the site lads..a bit late but let me give some input to this. I agree with most everything thats been said, but if you're talking about open matches then to get the anglers onto the matches you have to please them..Match anglers are at best a fickle bunch and anything not quite right with some will see them heading elsewhere. The majority of Match anglers DO care about the welfare of the fish and will gladly abide by rules and regulations regarding this.
If your venue is prolific..i.e you're expecting big weights in matches..then 2 keepnets is a must, maybe even 3 if weights are approaching 150-200lb..Keepnets these days are pretty good and fish friendly so distress to fish is minimized. I see no difference in keeping a Carp 2lb or a Carp 10lb in a keepnet for the duration of the match. The only problem being room..150lb of stockies in a small keepnet is a sin!
A few posted rules and regulations concerning fish and keepnet handling will soon educate ignorant anglers..i.e no sliding of fish down the net before weigh-in, etc
Neil and his wife at Lindholme Lakes, weigh in the matches making sure anglers abide by these guidlines, they also insist on every fish being netted and not swung in when small stockies are introduced.
Personally, I think problems start when a fishery is too mixed. i.e a venue where the predominant fish are relatively small but there is a chance of big carp also. Match Anglers tend to fish light to catch these smaller fish causing grief should anything big be hooked. A good way round this is to insure the fish in a pool are of a similar size..small fish in one..larger fish in another.
Personally if I had the money to own a fishery I would have 3 pools..One for out and out silver fish..one for carp and similar to perhaps 3/4lb moving them to my "specimen" pool or selling them on, when they reached a certain size...This pool would be for the pleasure angler only and no matches would be allowed....anyone fancy lending me some money!!?
Looking forward to the match this weekend.
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Post by moomoo2 on Apr 25, 2006 15:11:15 GMT
;D Rozzhee well put that man a very well put together piece m8 good on ya
best Regards Malc.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2006 9:41:37 GMT
The Pool Bridge evening matches are due to commence on thursday 25th May. Draw 5.30pm Fish 6.00pm - 9.00 pm. I certainly attend a few and i hope that a few of the lads can make a few as well. Any queries, Mike and Steve can be contacted on 01904 633340.
Mick the Troll
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Post by Pecker on May 16, 2006 10:00:55 GMT
Went up the other day for a visit to take some photos and have a nice chat . Photos will be up on the venue board as soon as i work out the new software and get them to Si.  I too will be looking to get across for a couple of matches to help Mike and Steve get this venture off the ground . Hope to see some of you there . Gary |
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Post by njc on May 16, 2006 10:05:09 GMT
I'll probably be up for fishing a couple of these evening opens I reckon..... Just as soon as my new seatbox arrives and I can get my tackle organised properly. I'd never be able to setup with only 30 mins at the moment ;D njc. |
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Post by naf on May 18, 2006 7:57:52 GMT
I also fancy a couple of these if i can get away from work early enough, are they running weekly and how much am i going to lose ?
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Post by snakebite1 on May 18, 2006 8:03:18 GMT
I also fancy a couple of these if i can get away from work early enough, are they running weekly and how much am i going to lose ? all what u put in naf ;D ;D snake/monkey |
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Post by Finny on May 18, 2006 8:13:10 GMT
I also fancy a couple of these if i can get away from work early enough, are they running weekly and how much am i going to lose ? Tom just give your money to a charity ME |
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Post by naf on May 18, 2006 8:25:35 GMT
Your welcome to my debt mate ;D
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Post by snakebite1 on May 18, 2006 9:58:57 GMT
Your welcome to my debt mate ;D that cause ur a top man with top pennys lol snake |
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(ok bragging a little there) one fish in the silver net and 2 pints of spilt pellets and dropped tackle in the other ;D