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Post by Bluey on Jun 30, 2003 19:34:54 GMT
Here we go with another poll. The keepnet question seems to be one that will never go away. Get voting and post a reason for your vote if poss. Remember, no falling out !!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by moomoo2 on Jun 30, 2003 22:58:39 GMT
As long as the keepnet has plenty of room for the fish is not hard and abrasive and is not used for oversized fish i.e carp tench barbel etc i like to see what i have caught many fish swim in shouls anyway so what is the problem as long as i say they are not over filled if you are lucky enough to be baging up take a picture and start again it is like everything just use a little common scence and things will be ok. regards malc and if you get really worried about there stress level get a hydraphone and play them a little mood music say handles water music or whale song lol.
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Post by andy2 on Jul 1, 2003 8:45:05 GMT
I'm with Mal on this one. Common sense is the big deciding factor. Providing you don't keep them netted up for too long and don't go putting any huge fish in the net there should'nt be a problem. Providing your net is of a good quality and size. ???I think I've just repeated everything Mal said but in a different order They do say great minds think alike
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Post by gavmitchell on Jul 1, 2003 9:44:25 GMT
As a match angler, I like to see my catch at the end of each and every session, but as many venues agree, fish over a certain size... say 3lb should not be put into a keepnet. Also as long as the net is of a good size and good quality for the fish you are going to catch, such as carp safe nets for... yes you guessed it roach... no I ment carp ;D and so on... Have I also just repeated the above?
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Post by mghill on Jul 1, 2003 9:48:45 GMT
I must admit to liking to know just what I have caught. Modern nets are big and if sited correctly should not cause the fish harm. I 'bagged up' at Gawdall last Sunday and after the fish were weighed they just merrily went on there way.No floaters no strugglers. I can see the case for Barbel but conversely I can not think of a better place for them to be to recover. They are away from the main flow and should come to no harm. If you have followed the new guidlines pre unhooking they should be well on their way to recovery when you put them in the net. They can then be released back into the swim when you see recovery is complete.
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Post by robp on Jul 1, 2003 10:31:54 GMT
I do agree with most of the comments above, but then we are all responsible anglers! Unfortunately there are many out on the banks who are not, some purely through ignorance, others who just don't care. A walk along any river bank or lakeside will always reveal poor quality nets and badly positioned ones. At this time of year, when oxygen levels can be low due to long periods of warm weather and little rain, it is advisable to not use keepnets. Release the fish immeadiately and they will soon find the most suitable place in a venue to get that much needed oxygen through their gills.
On the subject of barbel, when allowing the fish to recover they need to be held pointing upstream with running oxygenated water running through their gills. Put them in slacker water, out of the flow, and recovery is much less likely. I have often had to return barbel several pegs from the point of capture due to insufficient flow on the nearside bank. Many nets are also unsuitable for barbel as the mesh is either too large a gauge, which can cause ripped fins, or to fine, which can restrict the flow of oxygen.
I stopped using one about ten years ago, at first it was a shame when I'd had a netfull, but now the thought doesn't even cross my mind. The other bonus is no more stinking nets fouling up the shed! And why do nets smell? Is it the water or is it the protective slime of the fish deposited on nets? If it is the latter then that would suggest they are not great for fish welfare.
With the antis on our backs is the best course of action not to use them, its one less string to their bow.
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Post by Bluey on Jul 1, 2003 17:44:16 GMT
Gotta go with the majority on this one. I too like to see what I've caught at the end of the day.
As a lot of the posts say, it all comes down to common sense, a lot of which, unfortunately, quite a few anglers are devoid of.
Saying that, it doesn't stop the matchmen up at Woodlands filling their nets to bursting with with nigh on treble figure weights over a five hour period, yet to the pleasure angler keepnets are banned.
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Post by bigman on Jul 5, 2003 16:55:42 GMT
:-[not sure on this one but common sense should suggest that keepnets should only be used on matches, i don't see what is ment whan people say that they like to see what thev'e caught, you can see them as you go along and if they are decent take a photo like i do. i'm not suggesting that a keepnet puts any stress on a fish but whats the point in keeping them if you are not trying to win a match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2003 22:04:53 GMT
whats the point in stressing out the fish for no reason other than to have a look and take pics?matches yes/pleasure no, I havent used mine in about 6 years
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