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Post by gazmc on Nov 16, 2006 17:00:29 GMT
A mate of mine at work showed me a pic of a mirror carp in the fish department of a well known supermarket in leeds . Has any one else seen them for sale aswell. I know we eat fish but it just doesn't seem right having mirror carp on there. When the lad quized the manger of the fish dep he thought it had come from the north sea. Do you think it's right to sell them like this?. Gaz
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Post by BOF on Nov 16, 2006 17:10:57 GMT
Surprisingly enough, yes I do think its ok to sell them like this. Because thats what we brought them into the country for, namely, to eat. Similarly I don't get all upset, and outraged, when I see Trout and Salmon on the same stall. If they are available on the fish stall of your national supermarket chain, it might stop folk having to swipe them, just so they can get similar fish to what they are used to eating, back home. BOF
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Post by breamy on Nov 16, 2006 17:15:09 GMT
does that sign say they are 12.99 per kilo
i havnt seen these in the local shop i.e the one in your referring to but then again we havnt been in for a few days will check when we next go in tho
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Post by gazmc on Nov 16, 2006 17:15:58 GMT
I don't think it will stop people knicking them as they could have bought all kinds of fish in the first place. Why would they pay for them when they can get them for nothing from places we pay good money to fish . Gaz
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Post by BOF on Nov 16, 2006 20:18:43 GMT
Because its easier to buy them when they are in the supermarket, than go out and catch them themselves, Gazmc. However this is one time when I have to go against the majority. Much as I love my Carp fishing, Carp are just a food fish. Our reverence for them as an angling nation, is a great puzzlement to the vast majority of the Angling world. Yes, we have spread the infatuation to mainland Europe, and even begun the uphill struggle in Ireland and the States. But by and large, they are either seen as a pest, or just a food source in the rest of the world. If the fish on the slab had been a 5lb Salmon, or a 1lb Trout, would you have even raised an eyebrow? Personally, I think we need to get a better grip on reality, accept that Carp aren't sacred, and get the price of farmed Carp down to sensible levels, £12+ per kilo is absolutely silly money. BOF
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Post by binner on Nov 16, 2006 20:37:21 GMT
i dont see the problem rerarly as that fish wont have been pinched, it will have been bread for the table. and i have to agree, if i wanted carp for tea i wouldnt go catch 1 along with cold because of the rain wind ect, just pop down to shops
i went for some dead bait otherday and i didnt see any carp but this is not the first time i have heared about it
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Post by bas on Nov 16, 2006 20:44:45 GMT
a large yorkshire supermarket sells them and its not asda. I disagree with what you said bof, they will still steal the fish, they won't go to the local shops and buy when there is fish in lakes, streams, canals free, these people are not the same as us. stiff upper lip, sense of fair play, basically british.they are !!!!! and till we stand up and stop them they will carry on theiving our fish. bas..................
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Post by bnud on Nov 16, 2006 21:04:49 GMT
Think thats a bit harsh, ? If your refering to Eastern Europeans taking fish from waters for food, they waint sell 'em they'll eat 'em. Whats common practice for them in their homelands, is not comon practice here, but they just don't know that in the majority. In a perfect world their would be more bailiffs on our waters educating the unknowing poachers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2006 22:40:02 GMT
in a perfect world there wouldnt be crime of any sorts , but we dont live in one of those
i agree they have to abide by our laws not just criminal but all laws including angling , this is a delicate subject and dont get me started on the ins and outs of illeagles in the country coz you will get me banned fromt he site ,
i do agree that if there for sale then it will reduce the fish that are nicked , but there has always been poaching since adam , so whats new , the fact that its our fish or the fact that there not from this great country thats going to the dogs ,
do trout and salmon angler feel same when they see them in tesco , dout it , but i also see your point i had to look twice , but if there bred for the table cant see a problem , unless there bigger than iam catching lol
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Post by bnud on Nov 16, 2006 22:54:17 GMT
Them Sprats are bigger than what i'm catching at the moment
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Post by JMallett on Nov 17, 2006 12:18:32 GMT
Carp have been eaten for hundreds of years before we came along and fished for them, simple as that. Thats how they got into this country in the first place, by the monks who brought them for food. As BOF says, its only here in the UK and a few other European areas where the carp is much sought after as a fishing quarry and not as food. In Australia carp are vermin and its law in some states to kill every carp you catch, you can in fact be imprisoned for failing to do so in certain areas.
I have no problem with them being eaten at all. Might help save fish like the cod if we start eating other fish.....mind you I have heard that carp are not the tastiest of fish, and being honest, I wouldn't want to eat one. Each to their own.
The price is incredible though at £12 a kilo - I have heard in some top restaurants in London that you can pay £60 or £70 for a carp fillet.
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Post by Bluey on Nov 17, 2006 17:51:09 GMT
The price is incredible though at £12 a kilo - I have heard in some top restaurants in London that you can pay £60 or £70 for a carp fillet. And then we wonder why Johnny Foreigner wants to nick them to eat!!!
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Post by Keith on Nov 20, 2006 16:57:17 GMT
A mate of mine at work showed me a pic of a mirror carp in the fish department of a well known supermarket in leeds . Has any one else seen them for sale aswell. I know we eat fish but it just doesn't seem right having mirror carp on there. When the lad quized the manger of the fish dep he thought it had come from the north sea. Do you think it's right to sell them like this?. Gaz If it's a large supermarket then it's likely the fish will have been bought legally from a fish farm. So I can't see what the problem is. Carp are popular on the continent as a source of food - in fact the carp stocked in British waters last century were strains developed by fish farmers for the food market. If it has been nicked from a fishery then it obviously wrong.
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