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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 20:04:22 GMT
But as for benefits the way I would like to see it done is based on what you have paid in ie if you have never worked you get the minimum payment/ none if you have worked all your life and through no fault of your own end up on them then you get a higher band this way people who have worked don't get classed as someone who hasn't bothered and every 6 month your on the dole you lose some of your benefit so there is a insenstive to get back into work as quickly as possible But the jobcentres do have to play there part cos they don't help people how they should and there system isn't very easy to use and most of the jobs are temp or nowhere near where you live I remember once been in jobcentre put in plumber 5 mile from Rotherham and the first page was full of jobs in London hows that helping The hole benefit system needs s  ing and a new one put in place Gaz your spot on with that mate This is what this thread is all about Freindly debate about our country and rubbings of it Please keep the good comments like this coming |
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 20:09:34 GMT
Spooner if that's the case then the system is failing you,,,, But your a roofer ain't you  Average roofer is £80 a day £400 a week,,,,, With all the wind and rain about there's no shortage in roof repairs lad,,, You need to ring and hassle every man and his dog under the sun offer your self for £260 a week You will be £4 a week better off then,,, Jesus what's minimum wage these days ?? I'm outa touch with that,,, I thought a 21 year old be getting more than 250 a week ?? |
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 20:16:35 GMT
What is like to see is something similar to what gaz said
But with a difference slightly
A system where you only get out what you pay in,,,
So if you work 2 year then that 2 years pay in is all you get back and a maximum of 6 months whatever comes first
But if you have a job sorry spooner gunna use you as an example
But if you have a job offer say like spooner of £230 a week and you need £256 a week to survive then the government should introduce a top up scheme where they too your money upto the basic minimum allowance,,,
So spooner would get £26 on top of his wage weekly untill a pay rise or he locates a better job
This would slash the country's benefit system in half and half again ,,,,,
Company's would grow becaus peopel would be working,,,,,
What the government should not do is give free handouts to every man and his cat,,,
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 20:20:08 GMT
FFS what time zone you in , wish I could find a part time job that's pays £256 , try a full time one , or does full time cut your fishing time down?
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 20:23:38 GMT
defo turning this off , for tonght before I go mental , plus need to get kids to school and then do 9 hours graft before I get home and put there tea on , ohh and then take them to swimmimng club , find me a part time job someone that pays £256 a week |
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Post by spooner on Jan 28, 2014 20:23:56 GMT
Exacley brummie there is no part time jobs that pay that sort oof money !!
Cant work full time coz i have kids to take to nursury take to school pick up from nusury and pick up from school..
plus my youngest is only in nursury 3 days a week ....
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 20:29:32 GMT
But as for benefits the way I would like to see it done is based on what you have paid in ie if you have never worked you get the minimum payment/ none if you have worked all your life and through no fault of your own end up on them then you get a higher band this way people who have worked don't get classed as someone who hasn't bothered and every 6 month your on the dole you lose some of your benefit so there is a insenstive to get back into work as quickly as possible But the jobcentres do have to play there part cos they don't help people how they should and there system isn't very easy to use and most of the jobs are temp or nowhere near where you live I remember once been in jobcentre put in plumber 5 mile from Rotherham and the first page was full of jobs in London hows that helping The hole benefit system needs s ing and a new one put in place one last thing agree with this too, also feel that When anyone goes to NHS , hospital etc and needed treatment , they check to see how much they paid into system via contributions, so any one outside of UK not paid into system , gets all for free they need to show they can pay for treatment before receiving it, when I go abroad if I cant prove I can pay I get all . stop the NHS tourists getting treatment for free !!! |
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 20:35:35 GMT
Exacley brummie there is no part time jobs that pay that sort oof money !! Cant work full time coz i have kids to take to nursury take to school pick up from nusury and pick up from school.. plus my youngest is only in nursury 3 days a week .... me and wife both work Full time and we manage to take kids to school , pick them up take to clubs , cook tea etc , part of being a parent , wouldn't of had kids if I couldn't do it. When mine at nursery we paid for a child minder or worked around it , my wife did 3 x 14 hour shifts so was home as often as possible, she was always knackered , but we managed, but to easy nowadays to get it for free government needs to sort it out |
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Post by Con artist uk on Jan 28, 2014 20:36:09 GMT
Will also add that my benafits dont pay for my fishing ! all i see from that 256 is £56 this dont even cover the cost of food for a familey of 4 We're do you get the money for fishing then mate??? |
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 20:36:34 GMT
I would privatise the NHS S N.I AND DO AS AMERICA do Pay medical insurance  |
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Post by spooner on Jan 28, 2014 20:39:02 GMT
Will also add that my benafits dont pay for my fishing ! all i see from that 256 is £56 this dont even cover the cost of food for a familey of 4 We're do you get the money for fishing then mate??? Whats it got to do with you ! |
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Post by Con artist uk on Jan 28, 2014 20:44:14 GMT
Exacley brummie there is no part time jobs that pay that sort oof money !! Cant work full time coz i have kids to take to nursury take to school pick up from nusury and pick up from school.. plus my youngest is only in nursury 3 days a week .... me and wife both work Full time and we manage to take kids to school , pick them up take to clubs , cook tea etc , part of being a parent , wouldn't of had kids if I couldn't do it. When mine at nursery we paid for a child minder or worked around it , my wife did 3 x 14 hour shifts so was home as often as possible, she was always knackered , but we managed, but to easy nowadays to get it for free government needs to sort it out Same ere brum I do a 50 hour plus week for £280 take home pay Our lass works 12 hr shifts at hospital My kids are up at 05:30 most days of the week fed and off to kids clubs and nursery All done to give them a better life we could sit on our all day and get the same money but what sort of example would that show my kids An honest days pay for an honest days graft |
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Post by Con artist uk on Jan 28, 2014 20:45:56 GMT
We're do you get the money for fishing then mate??? Whats it got to do with you ! Just wondering no need to get all stroppy I would like more cash to go fishing thought you may have some way of making money I could use |
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Post by spooner on Jan 28, 2014 20:47:57 GMT
Exacley brummie there is no part time jobs that pay that sort oof money !! Cant work full time coz i have kids to take to nursury take to school pick up from nusury and pick up from school.. plus my youngest is only in nursury 3 days a week .... me and wife both work Full time and we manage to take kids to school , pick them up take to clubs , cook tea etc , part of being a parent , wouldn't of had kids if I couldn't do it. When mine at nursery we paid for a child minder or worked around it , my wife did 3 x 14 hour shifts so was home as often as possible, she was always knackered , but we managed, but to easy nowadays to get it for free government needs to sort it out Brummie belhame the sistum not people onit Like i said if i can find a job that pays £256 after tax ill take it... Untill then looks like im on benefits simple as ! |
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Post by spooner on Jan 28, 2014 20:49:15 GMT
Whats it got to do with you ! Just wondering no need to get all stroppy I would like more cash to go fishing thought you may have some way of making money I could use Your the con artist !!!! think about it lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2014 20:54:45 GMT
The government do do a top up scheme so that if your earning less then what you need to survive theyll pay the difference i was getting it when i was an apprentice and had a rented house to pay for |
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 20:58:17 GMT
Great attitude to have, why not stop fishing, stop paying internet, stop smoking , no need to earn £256 then , could always do a part time job and not rely on benefits so much.
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Post by vikingdave on Jan 28, 2014 21:05:29 GMT
hey guys if u look the footballs on the other channel |
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Post by gaz "weeksey" on Jan 28, 2014 21:07:56 GMT
Boys boys boys I think this thread should go back to jimmys original post which was about benefit street the program not what each other earns or receives its getting abit personal don't we think
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Post by vikingdave on Jan 28, 2014 21:10:48 GMT
yeah so get back to watching Liverpool if your dole money can cover your sky costs |
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Post by spooner on Jan 28, 2014 21:11:11 GMT
Great attitude to have, why not stop fishing, stop paying internet, stop smoking , no need to earn £256 then , could always do a part time job and not rely on benefits so much. Even so brummie i would still have to clear 256 to be better off ..... Why would i take a part time job that pays £120 a week to be down £106 The £120 would go strate into chield care so i could work would rather stay at home with my lad and be better of by £120 Bean over this all day with an adviser for the JOBCENTER They even said to me stay on benafits untill september when your partner Qwalifys She even told me to apply for jobs i know i wont get just so it looks like im looking for work WORK THAT ONE OUT ? |
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 21:12:24 GMT
Hey I'm not watching Liverpool again Last time I had them on my 75" 3d tv A bloody supporter jumped out and knicked my wallet |
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Post by vikingdave on Jan 28, 2014 21:19:27 GMT
didn't u speak to greg to get ya money back then |
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Post by gaz "weeksey" on Jan 28, 2014 21:22:45 GMT
If that was pointed In my direction suggest we get a few things straight I work 60 hours a week 12 hour nights and days and earn £476 a week after tax I have four kids that I pay for and don't claim anything so if i wanted to watch something on sky I will so don't be so clever
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Post by Brummie on Jan 28, 2014 21:23:16 GMT
Great attitude to have, why not stop fishing, stop paying internet, stop smoking , no need to earn £256 then , could always do a part time job and not rely on benefits so much. Even so brummie i would still have to clear 256 to be better off ..... Why would i take a part time job that pays £120 a week to be down £106 The £120 would go strate into chield care so i could work would rather stay at home with my lad and be better of by £120 Bean over this all day with an adviser for the JOBCENTER They even said to me stay on benafits untill september when your partner Qwalifys She even told me to apply for jobs i know i wont get just so it looks like im looking for work WORK THAT ONE OUT ? didn't mean to get personal , just really gets on my , give us the job centre persons name should be sacked for saying things like that, then you could have their jobs |
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Post by funkypigeon on Jan 28, 2014 22:12:57 GMT
Done a stint my sen down at jolly job club what categoary you in spoon you in £141 club to qualify for job seekers allowance you have to be actively seeking work ive never heard of adviser turning round and adding up ya weekly benefits and saying you better off at home load a tosh lad you want sum manual
Hard labour in sun digging trenches for ya money system meks me sick
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 22:18:53 GMT
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 22:24:59 GMT
 What about this un lad 29c heat I had a stroke that day  |
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Post by vikingdave on Jan 28, 2014 22:28:36 GMT
any pictures of the fish ?
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Post by Jimmy Silverfish FULLA on Jan 28, 2014 22:31:25 GMT
Fish Lol I built the customer a pond lol didn't provide them with fish too ha ha ha ha That's upto them And top photo is the start of a 18 metre extension lol |
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