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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 12:02:03 GMT
The more anglers on the bank the greater number of licence dodgers there will be. That said is there more checking of licences at the weekends when there are more anglers on the bank or is the EA restricted in weekend checks by the extra cost of overtime and /or unsociable hours?
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Sept 8, 2011 12:18:45 GMT
Tomeluk
As we've said before we target our enforcement where we know we have a problem with people fishing without licences. While we do quite a lot of our work during the week, our activity is not restricted by weekends.
Pete Turner
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 12:29:42 GMT
Tomeluk As we've said before we target our enforcement where we know we have a problem with people fishing without licences. While we do quite a lot of our work during the week, our activity is not restricted by weekends. Pete Turner Further to this. Is it possible for the EA to find out where weekend matches are taking place, particularly on rivers, and target those matches in order to cover larger quantities of anglers in one fell swoop? (I notice that L&DASA post match dates and venues on their website) |
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Sept 8, 2011 12:35:47 GMT
We find that as the season gets older there's little point in checking matches.
As we've already explained we only have a small number of bailiffs and a large number of waters to visit. We try to target waters where we know we will find people fishing without licences rather than targetting regular anglers which the match guys tend to be.
Pete
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Post by Tetley on Sept 8, 2011 13:33:26 GMT
We try to target waters where we know we will find people fishing without licences rather than targetting regular anglers which the match guys tend to be. Pete Hello Pete, Can I ask how you achieve this - how do you know where licence uptake is at it lowest? Mointor Licence data base? Thanks, Ian (Tets) |
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Sept 8, 2011 13:41:24 GMT
Hi Tetley
That's certainly one way we can do it but normally we work on evasion rate. When our bailiffs visit a water they record how many people they see and how many Offence Report Forms they issue. This allows us to calculate an evasion rate for that water.
By looking back over a couple of years and using the bailiffs local knowledge we can work out which waters have the biggest number of people fishing without licences and target our resources there.
Pete
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Post by Tetley on Sept 8, 2011 13:50:35 GMT
Hi Tetley That's certainly one way we can do it but normally we work on evasion rate. When our bailiffs visit a water they record how many people they see and how many Offence Report Forms they issue. This allows us to calculate an evasion rate for that water. By looking back over a couple of years and using the bailiffs local knowledge we can work out which waters have the biggest number of people fishing without licences and target our resources there. Pete Thanks Pete. |
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Post by tyke66 on Sept 8, 2011 14:01:29 GMT
Hi Pete,
Is it not fair to say that word of mouth regarding EA Bailiff visits gets around and persistent licence evaders will avoid venues where it is known that they make regular checks and simply move on to other venues?
Doug
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Sept 8, 2011 14:09:19 GMT
Doug, you just caught me before I logged off.
Yes it's true that some people will merely relocate when they find out that the bailiffs are about. We don't just go to high evasion waters though we also visit other waters in the area, just not as often.
If we find that a water has an evasion rate which is falling and another one nearby which is rising we simply move the bailiffs to where the problem is.
What is for sure is eventually we will catch them!
Pete
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