yorki
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Post by yorki on Mar 5, 2011 8:53:15 GMT
In my younger days there was period of the year when I could not fish. I often fish on "Commercials" and as they are privately owned lakes/ponds it is up to the owner whether they have any non fishing periods.
I tried to Google the answer to this, but all I can find is out of date information.
When is the Closed Season ? Do we actually have one? And to what does it apply (lakes/rivers) or Species?
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 11:33:24 GMT
In my younger days there was period of the year when I could not fish. I often fish on "Commercials" and as they are privately owned lakes/ponds it is up to the owner whether they have any non fishing periods. I tried to Google the answer to this, but all I can find is out of date information. When is the Closed Season ? Do we actually have one? And to what does it apply (lakes/rivers) or Species? Thanks www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/37951.aspx
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Post by Fishforfun on Mar 5, 2011 16:20:47 GMT
since where on this subject
why do we have a closed season now, it was put in place when most fish that where caught got killed for food. Personally i Think that closed season should only mean fish MUST be returned. nearly every english person puts them back anyway close season or not.
What eveidence is there to support close season ? I know it was abolished on canals becuase it did nothing. so what are the key differences between a drain and a canal?
also i pay a licence fee to fish on rivers, the same price as a carp angler pays to fish a pond. yet his is usable for 12months and mine is only 9(closed season). why do they cost the same price. When june 16th comes round the EA should discount 25% off year licences.
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Post by johnnyfby on Mar 5, 2011 17:02:20 GMT
I totally disagree with a rivers closed season, i really cannot see the point. Its been a total success on still waters why cant it be the same for rivers. Just remembered there is a use it gets me to decorate the house from top to bottom, fit a new kitchen and put a new garage roof on, not forgetting to clean th back of my car out.
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Post by yorkiman on Mar 5, 2011 17:15:25 GMT
It's the LAW lad. enjoy what you have for now, one day you may enjoy free FISHING......... all thi needs to do is ta put a g.s.t on all fishing services, no licenses, no nothing, just free ponds, lakes and rivers..and then put this money back to work on rebuilding all these free ponds, lakes and rivers.i.e thi goes to fish a pond, thi pays 5 quid for day plus g.s.t. thi goes to a river owned by a club thi pays a club book fee plus g.s.t. thi buy's a pint of magets plus g.s.t..thi only pays when need to...........
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Post by Fishforfun on Mar 5, 2011 18:04:35 GMT
I know its the law but its an old law, laws get renewed and changed for the better and become more up to date with the times. The law used to be to get ya hands chopped off if you stole an apple thankfully now thats been changed ( yes i like 2 steal apples).
My point is the EA has no evidence to support having a closed season right? not now the fish are returned they dont know what affect it would have at all, If any.
I would just like to see them put a little bit of research into it and gather some evidence instead of just sayin "well we dont know what it would do so where not changing it", it has been so sucessful on canals
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Post by tommy1 on Mar 5, 2011 19:16:37 GMT
I know its the law but its an old law, laws get renewed and changed for the better and become more up to date with the times. The law used to be to get ya hands chopped off if you stole an apple thankfully now thats been changed ( yes i like 2 steal apples). My point is the EA has no evidence to support having a closed season right? not now the fish are returned they dont know what affect it would have at all, If any. I would just like to see them put a little bit of research into it and gather some evidence instead of just sayin "well we dont know what it would do so where not changing it", it has been so sucessful on canals Thats a excellent question mate,and one that i'd like answering too
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Mar 10, 2011 12:20:13 GMT
Q: In my younger days there was period of the year when I could not fish. I often fish on "Commercials" and as they are privately owned lakes/ponds it is up to the owner whether they have any non fishing periods. I tried to Google the answer to this, but all I can find is out of date information. When is the Closed Season ? Do we actually have one? And to what does it apply (lakes/rivers) or Species? A: The national closed season for all coarse fish runs from 15 March to 15 June inclusive. Brown trout close seasons vary around the country, to reflect differences in spawning times. In Yorkshire the brown trout close season runs from 1st October to 24th March (inclusive). Salmon and sea trout have their own close season. In Yorkshire this is 1st November to 5th April, inclusive. Our website has this to say about the reasoning behind having a close season on rivers: In contrast to stillwaters, most river fisheries are in multiple ownership, with fish free to move between stretches owned by different people. Fisheries management actions taken by one owner will have an impact on the neighbouring waters; this is of particular importance with regard to spawning sites on rivers, which are often very localised. In February 2000 the independent Salmon & Freshwater Fisheries Review considered close seasons and recommended that: Byelaws should be introduced to abolish the close season for coarse fish on canals and rivers except where its retention is necessary to avert serious risk of damage to fish stocks. The Government supported our view that such a proposal should be based on sound science. While sound scientific evidence was available to support the case for removing the close season on canals, it was not available in respect of rivers. Because all river coarse fisheries have a close season, it is virtually impossible to gather the required evidence - a scientific comparison similar to that done for canals would be needed. Our view is that in the absence of scientific evidence, we must take a precautionary approach towards rivers, retaining the current close season. It should also be noted that the above recommendation resulted in a great deal of representation to Government from angling and fisheries interests opposing the removal of the close season on rivers. www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/recreation/fishing/37967.aspx
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Mar 10, 2011 12:21:10 GMT
Q: What eveidence is there to support close season ? I know it was abolished on canals becuase it did nothing. so what are the key differences between a drain and a canal? also i pay a licence fee to fish on rivers, the same price as a carp angler pays to fish a pond. yet his is usable for 12months and mine is only 9(closed season). why do they cost the same price. When june 16th comes round the EA should discount 25% off year licences.
A: See previous answer
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Post by Fishforfun on Mar 10, 2011 19:08:45 GMT
well i didnt expect an answer but i got one, even though it was just something copied and pasted from the EA website. I was hoping for moreeven though I know its a really good explanation of why
But surely there must be drains and rivers where trials can be carried out, until theres actually evidence to support closed season some/lots/ most of anglers will question its purpose.
also i dont know anything about this but i heard scotland do not have a closed season for coarse fish? surely some evidence could be aquired from how this affects there rivers, fish populations, spawning etc etc
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