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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Feb 28, 2011 9:52:53 GMT
Morning all,
My name is Alex, i work in the communications team for the Environment Agency here in Yorkshire. Some of our fisheries guys have volunteered to come online for a live forum chat if it's something you are interested in?
At the moment, it's difficult for us to find the time to come on and check through individual posts to respond to your comments, as a lot of the team work out on the ground.
Would you be interested in coming online and chatting to the guys from the Yorkshire fisheries, recreation and bio diversity team?
If you have anything specific you want to ask us about, leave a comment below and we will make sure we have an answer for you on the day.
The team will be online live on Thursday 10th March between 12 and 2pm, and can respond from this account to questions asked on this thread.
Let me know if it's something you are interested in.
Thanks. Alex
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Post by BOF on Feb 28, 2011 11:12:57 GMT
Yes certainly, my first question for the Biodiversity team would be what species is Finney? Followed by the following:- Since the West Yorkshire rivers began to clean up, and this is particularly noticeable on the river Aire which now holds good numbers of fish well below Knottingley, what measures are the EA taking to monitor fish populations and promote angling access in areas such as Swillington, and Allerton Bywater on the Aire and Stanley Ferry, Methley, and Castleford on the Calder? BOF
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Post by Eyghon on Feb 28, 2011 11:58:27 GMT
The Licence fee is frozen this year mate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 12:03:19 GMT
There is obviously an interest from members. So the answer is YES we would be interested in posing a few questions. I have at least a couple but it is not yet Thursday 10th March.
I have also posted about this on Welham Lake website and am prepared to put together a series of questions from those who have questions to pose but cannot access a computer on the day between 12noon and 2,00pm. If anybody would like to PM me with their questions I will try to put something together.
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Post by naf on Feb 28, 2011 13:45:42 GMT
To avoid seriously long threads and questions getting missed amongst lots of posts perhaps it would be worthwhile starting a dedicated section for this where each questions has its own thread and can be seen and answered by the EA officers….
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 13:54:28 GMT
indeed a good idea naf.
EA having it's own subforum. You could also LOCK the subforum until a day before + after for people to get their questions in?
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Post by musselman on Feb 28, 2011 16:00:26 GMT
Why not do the whole thing during the close season when we can't fish the rivers! The 10th might be the day when the conditions are spot-on (for anyone fortunate enough to be able to get out at that time).
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Post by naf on Mar 1, 2011 22:41:50 GMT
To try and make sure questions are not missed i have moved a few posts to new threads with basic title questions.. 1.. If anyone wants to ask a different question please start a new thread. 2.. If you want some more information on a question already asked, please post in the same thread...
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Mar 10, 2011 12:02:29 GMT
Hi all and thanks for giving us the opportunity to talk to you. We’ve done our best to answer all of the questions you’ve asked in advance and will try to answer anything you ask between now and 2pm.
As far as I’m aware this is the first time anything like this has been tried by a Fisheries Department at the Environment Agency so please bear with us. We’re going to have to move around a bit between threads so it might be a bit ‘clunky’ but we’ll do our best to do things in a logical order.
So you know who we are I’m Pete Turner and I’m with my colleagues Peter Mischenko, Jerome Masters and Richard Atkinson. We’re all based at Phoenix House in Leeds and mainly work in the West and South Yorkshire area. Just in case a question is asked that we can’t answer we have a network of other fishery officers available by phone.
There may be some questions which we can’t answer immediately because we might need more information. What we will do is aim to answer these over the next couple of days and post the replies when we can.
When we’ve finished it’s really important that you let us know how you think it went. If you think it’s been worthwhile then we could consider making it a regular event, maybe every 2, 3 or 6 months? It’s up to you really, we’ll just take a lead from your responses.
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Post by willothewisp on Mar 10, 2011 13:49:41 GMT
Three Rods on one Licence? Q. I regularly see guys on a local carp water fishing with three rods, and am fairly certain they only have one licence. Do you catch/prosecute many for this? What do you do if they say one of their rods is a marker or spod? Can you make them take it out to show you if it's being fished?
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Post by envagencyyorkshire on Mar 10, 2011 14:04:18 GMT
Q. I regularly see guys on a local carp water fishing with three rods, and am fairly certain they only have one licence. Do you catch/prosecute many for this? What do you do if they say one of their rods is a marker or spod? Can you make them take it out to show you if it's being fished?
A. Fishing with three rods whilst having only one licence is an offence and anyone caught doing this will be reported and may face a fine the maximum of which is £2,500. An Environment Agency water bailiff is empowered to inspect any tackle which is suspected of committing an offence, and the angler can be asked to bring the rod in for inspection. A rod licence is not required for a marker or spod rod.
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Post by yorki on May 11, 2011 6:14:09 GMT
I bought my Licence for this year (2011) from the Local Post Office, for which I obtained a receipt, I of course have kept this in my wallet. (This was 2 weeks prior to the new season) I have yet to receive through the post the actual licence and am concerned that by fishing without it I am breaking the law, despite having paid for one. The Receipt has printed on it, that it is acceptable to use it as "temporary" licence for 2 weeks, how does that affect me and my fishing?
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Post by compo on May 11, 2011 7:12:47 GMT
have you rung them up and asked em
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Post by yorki on May 11, 2011 17:53:18 GMT
No I have not phoned them, I tend to not bother with Call Centres in Bombay.
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Post by Darren on May 11, 2011 18:49:14 GMT
Well since they are Sheffield based I suggest you give them a call.....
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Post by bostonman on Jun 30, 2011 11:20:52 GMT
could you tell me the following..... with license sales of 23 million last year and a projected figure of 25 million pounds this season just where does the e.a. sit in regards to otter predation ? i dont notice that sort of income being given to you by the pro otter factions......
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Post by beachball on Jun 30, 2011 12:12:18 GMT
could you tell me the following..... with license sales of 23 million last year and a projected figure of 25 million pounds this season just where does the e.a. sit in regards to otter predation ? i dont notice that sort of income being given to you by the pro otter factions...... I pay my rod licence and i am pro Otter now mink,snake heads, and Signal crayfish thats another story, regards Malc.
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Post by bostonman on Jun 30, 2011 19:59:26 GMT
could you tell me the following..... with license sales of 23 million last year and a projected figure of 25 million pounds this season just where does the e.a. sit in regards to otter predation ? i dont notice that sort of income being given to you by the pro otter factions...... this is actually a serious question, when will the e.a. guy be on here again ?
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Post by gazmc on Jun 30, 2011 20:31:53 GMT
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Post by bostonman on Jul 2, 2011 12:55:07 GMT
i phone wont open up the relevant threads so i can only assume the e.a.'s response to be something like a politicians answer........ no commitment either way regarding otter predation. as long as mug anglers keep pumping in up to 25 mill a year, and waters are wiped out - so what......... naughty bostonman for being such a cynic.
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Post by beachball on Jul 2, 2011 13:59:58 GMT
i phone wont open up the relevant threads so i can only assume the e.a.'s response to be something like a politicians answer........ no commitment either way regarding otter predation. as long as mug anglers keep pumping in up to 25 mill a year, and waters are wiped out - so what......... naughty bostonman for being such a cynic. What i don't understand is why you are so against Otters a natural species when there is so much predation from mink a lot more than otters and they are an introduced species that can have up to six young at a time where as the otter at most will raise three. Otters will also take their fill and then go and sleep where as mink will go into a killing frenzy killing just for the sake of it just taking the choice bits of a fish and then going onto the next one. so i think sort the invaders first and then if there is a problem then try and tackle that, just my humble opinion best regards Malc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2011 16:26:45 GMT
Mal otters are wiping out the fish stocks all over the country, not just fisheries they are attacking fish in garden ponds, killing for the sake leaving the dead fish across the lawns of said gardens.
as a native and left alone things would have balanced themselves out but the EA are releasing more and more , so as the amount grow they need to look everywhere for fun and food.
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Post by bostonman on Jul 3, 2011 12:03:16 GMT
otters and mink have caused massive destruction on a river not a million miles from my home. it will take years and years to bring it back to how it should be, will the e.a. or do gooders be putting their hands in their pockets to restock it ? or one of my private carp lakes which is down to just a handfull of carp now the otters are in. i openly say to the e.a. " for 25 million pounds a year from rod license sales take action and actually for once do something about this problem".
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Post by threelander on Jul 3, 2011 16:54:50 GMT
well said bostonman
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Post by willothewisp on Jul 4, 2011 14:17:41 GMT
So what are your suggestions/solutions to "this problem" Bostonman? Maybe if a club or organisation could provide EA with a "solution" together with a proper cost/benefit analysis they might then measure its desirability vis a vis other demands on them: flood prevention, coastal erosion to name but two. And in the overall scale of things on a long term basis I wonder how desirable it is to "eradicate" otters as some have suggested. Surely as their food stock diminishes they will move on/reproduce less? Unless of course homo sapiens, in his wisdom, provides the otters equivalent of lots of McDonalds fast food fishery equivalents. A right can of worms this debate could become!
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Post by salmonman1 on Jul 5, 2011 11:04:48 GMT
otters and mink have caused massive destruction on a river not a million miles from my home. it will take years and years to bring it back to how it should be, will the e.a. or do gooders be putting their hands in their pockets to restock it ? or one of my private carp lakes which is down to just a handfull of carp now the otters are in. i openly say to the e.a. " for 25 million pounds a year from rod license sales take action and actually for once do something about this problem". does a 12 bore shotgun and landowners permission sound good to you ? it does me...........
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Post by bostonman on Jul 5, 2011 15:46:48 GMT
So what are your suggestions/solutions to "this problem" Bostonman? Maybe if a club or organisation could provide EA with a "solution" together with a proper cost/benefit analysis they might then measure its desirability vis a vis other demands on them: flood prevention, coastal erosion to name but two. And in the overall scale of things on a long term basis I wonder how desirable it is to "eradicate" otters as some have suggested. Surely as their food stock diminishes they will move on/reproduce less? Unless of course homo sapiens, in his wisdom, provides the otters equivalent of lots of McDonalds fast food fishery equivalents. A right can of worms this debate could become! Flood defences and erosion come out of a totally cash pot to what we anglers pay in [ so Im told ]. But I would like to think with nearly £25,000,0000 generated this year alone from fishing license sales then I would like to see some of this amount actually dedicated to angling problems like otter predation. Or we could just give up and turn a blind eye.
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Post by bostonman on Jul 5, 2011 19:33:58 GMT
regarding the idea of shotguns and landowners permission...... unfortunately the lovable otter is of course a protected species, as it is in france as well. however my french friends who are lake owners dont bother with silly nonsence like that, so sort out the otter as they know how ! ! !
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Post by threelander on Jul 5, 2011 20:47:29 GMT
but we brits have to abide by the law for some strange reason.i,m 100% behind you mate this needs sorting
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Post by bostonman on Jul 21, 2011 15:44:39 GMT
Just spent a good while studying the EA's answers on the previously asked questions regarding the otter predation problem and its the answers I expected. I'm not at all convinced with some of their points, and I'm not at all convinced anymore that a £27 a year license fee to watch MY waters being eaten alive is very good value for money. So no, I'm not very impressed with the quango that is the EA.
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