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Post by mambrino on Mar 20, 2014 16:15:16 GMT
Am I correct in believing the following rule applies to Yorkshire rivers,providing there are no specific rules to the contrary by whoever has the fishing rights to that particular stretch of water. For example the free stretches of the lower river Dearne. If I buy a licence on April 1st 2014 for course fishing and non migratory trout.Bearing in mind the course fishing season dosn't start until June. Am I allowed to spin fish with small artificial lures to target wild Brown Trout ? As a secondary question but related. If I know an area where trout frequent,am I also allowed to target them before the course season with a worm and FLOAT ? Or have I miss interpreted the rules on the Environment Agency website. Rod...
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Post by Liptugga on Mar 20, 2014 18:36:03 GMT
spin away but if you catch a course fish (pike perch)then you must move swim same with worm if you are targeting trout then ok but same again if you catch anything other than a trout your obliged to move swim.
again with a worm and float if you catch anything other than trout you must move swim.
IMO i dont deem it ethical to fish any running water in close season but the EA say you can but with the above rules
some people take advantage of it to keep fishing and fish area's that dont even hold trout but if your fishing a known trout holding area then your not breaking any rules that the EA set providing you move swim if you catch anything other than trout.
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Post by nick88 on Mar 20, 2014 18:46:52 GMT
spin away but if you catch a course fish (pike perch)then you must move swim same with worm if you are targeting trout then ok but same again if you catch anything other than a trout your obliged to move swim. again with a worm and float if you catch anything other than trout you must move swim. IMO i dont deem it ethical to fish any running water in close season but the EA say you can but with the above rules some people take advantage of it to keep fishing and fish area's that dont even hold trout but if your fishing a known trout holding area then your not breaking any rules that the EA set providing you move swim if you catch anything other than trout. Nail firmly hit on the head!
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Post by Beauregard on Mar 20, 2014 18:58:42 GMT
Liptugga. Excellent concise answer to an perennial question.
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Post by woodchucker on Mar 20, 2014 21:58:10 GMT
I may upset some people here but the closed season is a complete joke and should be either no fishing or fishing, why should it be fine to fish a canal, or a Stillwater yet running water is sacred. The rule was set to stop the riff raff being on the river when the lords and ladies wanted to fish for salmon.. The world has moved on and so should closed season.i have never caught a spawning Pike in the years I have been fishing, when they are set on spawning they are set on spawning and very little else.
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Post by nick88 on Mar 20, 2014 22:03:27 GMT
I may upset some people here but the closed season is a complete joke and should be either no fishing or fishing, why should it be fine to fish a canal, or a Stillwater yet running water is sacred. The rule was set to stop the riff raff being on the river when the lords and ladies wanted to fish for salmon.. The world has moved on and so should closed season.i have never caught a spawning Pike in the years I have been fishing, when they are set on spawning they are set on spawning and very little else. Agreed woody, however im not totally against it, it does give the fish a break i suppose especially on very pressured sections of river and also ya cant beat the excitement of opening day lol! Also makes me fish something other than rivers!
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Post by woodchucker on Mar 20, 2014 22:34:30 GMT
I may upset some people here but the closed season is a complete joke and should be either no fishing or fishing, why should it be fine to fish a canal, or a Stillwater yet running water is sacred. The rule was set to stop the riff raff being on the river when the lords and ladies wanted to fish for salmon.. The world has moved on and so should closed season.i have never caught a spawning Pike in the years I have been fishing, when they are set on spawning they are set on spawning and very little else. Agreed woody, however im not totally against it, it does give the fish a break i suppose especially on very pressured sections of river and also ya cant beat the excitement of opening day lol! Also makes me fish something other than rivers! That's why I turn to perch to be honest Nick, pike just are not interested.
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Post by grford77 on Mar 21, 2014 8:35:24 GMT
I may upset some people here but the closed season is a complete joke and should be either no fishing or fishing, why should it be fine to fish a canal, or a Stillwater yet running water is sacred. The rule was set to stop the riff raff being on the river when the lords and ladies wanted to fish for salmon.. The world has moved on and so should closed season.i have never caught a spawning Pike in the years I have been fishing, when they are set on spawning they are set on spawning and very little else. Toatlly agree bud! If fish are spawing in the rivers, then surely they are spawning in lakes and canals too! Just daft IMHO!
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Post by willothewisp on Mar 22, 2014 10:36:11 GMT
Good reply Liptugga. Not so sure about the requirement to move swim if a coarse fish is caught. I asked EA bailiff about this on the Wharfe last year and he never mentioned anything about moving. He said they target areas known not to contain trout, tackle not appropriate for trout, (like large spinners/spoons etc, wire traces, deadbaits, maggots/groundbait etc). Said they often observe before approaching river anglers in close season. From what he said tho' you're spot on about worming or light spinning in trout holding waters.
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Post by Beauregard on Mar 22, 2014 12:44:00 GMT
Taken from E.A. website!
If you fish for trout and catch coarse fish, please change your fishing method, swim or location. Failure to do so could result in prosecution.
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Post by willothewisp on Mar 23, 2014 12:24:52 GMT
The key word is "could". While we'd agree it's good advice, it's simply that. Note use of "please", and that it says "catch coarse fish" (ie plural), and not "a coarse fish", (singular) as an absolute requirement of avoiding prosecution by moving swim or changing method. My solicitor neighbour (whose husband match fishes), says no way would court convict someone on basis of not moving after catching one (or possibly 2/3) coarse fish over an extended session if trout also evidently in area fished or known to be present or being caught, and tackle and method being used evidently suitable for trout as opposed to coarse fish. Any bailiffs viewing this to give an opinion?
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Post by chubchaser1999 on Mar 28, 2014 16:57:56 GMT
for trout fishing in the closed season with lobworms I have heard that their is I minimum and a maximum size hook that you are allowed to use Is this true? and if so which size hooks are you limite too? and to avoid the accusation that I am fishing for course fish under that guise im not...... I don't have a fly rod but have always loved freelining worms that you dig up yourself for the brownies that frequent my local rivers, I cast to the swirls of rising fish and watch the line for the bite and have done so since the age of 8!!! when the trout is in good condition it defies a chub in appearance anyday they are beautiful from the clear waters of the ure
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